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Along that line:
"You look tired."
"I didn't get much sleep last night."
"What happened?"
"Earth and Water got into a fight last night and it turned into a mud flinging match. Literally."

Re: Metamor Mage Guild by MishaFoxMishaFox, 13 May 2013 17:17

That actually reminds me a bit of a concept. I had figured maybe someone perhaps has a power through their ability to make pacts with spirit(s) or Djinn (Maybe someone from Irombi? XD) and that's their strength, and downside.

Because the djinn or spirit(s) they have a pact with could always be uncooperative sometimes and have their own personalities.

"Alright… we need your help."
"I'm not helping HIM! He called me a demon!"
"…Can you at least help out?"
"Oh no. Not until he apologizes to my face for that off-hand demon comment I heard."
"…* sigh*"


"You know what they say, Terence. It is not only bad luck to wake a sleeping dragon, but it is also a very bad idea."

Re: Metamor Mage Guild by DigitalpotatoDigitalpotato, 13 May 2013 02:42

Depending on how much power the ice elemental will exert I don't see much of a problem with it. Give the poor guy a bad case of multiple personality schizophrenia with a being that has utterly no concept of mortal life forms… mmhhyeah, let him figure that one out, and keep the thing in check.

As ever to note - with power comes problems; the greater the power, the more monumental the problems, or the less often they're in play using their overwhelming potency.

Re: Metamor Mage Guild by RyxRyx, 12 May 2013 15:16

That's a good question. Has anyone gotten back to you on this?

The thing I would imagine would actually be that several mages would give you a kind of "Exam", similar to something I imagine they might give to an Apprentice when they are ready to move onto the rank of "Journeyman" or higher. This exam would be a test of skill, with your own unique abilities (Such as how they might ask Kriid Halluw to showcase his own Cryomancy specialty.)


"You know what they say, Terence. It is not only bad luck to wake a sleeping dragon, but it is also a very bad idea."

Re: Metamor Mage Guild by DigitalpotatoDigitalpotato, 11 May 2013 22:46

Don't worry… this cook will be the mooncalf in the pantry offering tidbits now and then. :)

okay, thank you Ryx! I think I will cut this off here. Too many cooks in one kitchen means nothing gets done!

Dominus tecum

Yeahhh… count me in, sure. :)
See what sort of havoc my off angle approach can make of things, though I am in no way nearly as twisty as that doggone rat!

Thank you, Hallan! It is so great to have you on board. :-)

Dominus tecum

I'm not having great luck writing large chunks, but count me in.

Thank you guys for volunteering so far! I have one other who wants to help who doesn't post here (Deranged Kitsune), but I'm hoping we can have one more to make a strong team. And I want it to be a team too.

Dominus tecum

We're always glad to have help and welcome to Metamor Keep!

I'm not established at all yet, but I offer my help as well.

I'm not the most established writer in the setting, but if you have something you would like me to help out with, I am happy to help.

I will be collecting everything we have on the discussion forum and collating it into a usable form this weekend. We'll build from there. If there are any decisions to be made, the working group will make it. I think that's only fair.

And thanks for helping out, Misha!

Dominus tecum

I'm willing to help! Have we decided exactly what happens? Do we at least have the general plot figured out?

I see the project working in three stages: Outline, Write, Review.

Outline: The team discusses and establishes a thorough outline of the story. It would begin with a high level outline and be expanded to the point at which everyone has a good feel for what's going to be happening at each stage of the story.

Write: The story is written based on the outline. Ideally each scene would have two writers, one to draft the scene and the second to flesh it out to minimize differences in style. Of course that won't always be doable. Either way, depending on how large the outline is, if we have four to five writers, each one should expect to draft/fill in twenty to thirty pages (that's my low end estimate on the final length). It could be more as some authors, such as myself, can be a little wordy.

Review: Everybody would lend a paw in reviewing and cleaning up errors.

This is a team effort I am trying to manage. People who want to help need to be willing and able to help and comfortable with writing to an outline and writing other people's characters.

Dominus tecum

What exactly would each writer be doing? This seems like a bit of a linear arc to have several people working on. I might be able to help, but I have to know what exactly I'd be writing about.

Now that I have brought my stories up to the May 708 timeframe when the previously agreed upon corruption of Merai at the hands of Suspira takes place, it is time to actually sit down and write this story!

We have form Raven the first part of his draft of Shadow Hunt which is meant to culminate in Merai's escape from Alarun's forces after a period of captivity. Her escape was to lead to the confrontation which culminated in the fulfillment of the Starchild prophecy. This has been changed to having Suspira corrupt Merai whereby she goes to Elvquelin, seduces the Emporer of Sathmore, send Alarun's head to Duke Thomas, and assure Raven that she has to stay where she is now. While this does lead to a few years of relative tranquility among the Lothanasi faithful, the Pantheon will be set in turmoil and everyone will be recalibrating their plans.

I am asking for help. I cannot neither write nor plan the story of Merai's corruption by myself. I would like to create a working group of authors, no more than four or five, who are dedicated to helping plan, write, and review this story. It does not need to be a Winter Assault sized tale, nor should it be.

If you want to be involved, please just reply to this thread saying that you want to be involved. Do keep in mind that involvement means you are COMMITTING to do work on this project. No commitment to this means that the story doesn't happen, period.

So, who wants to join me on this project? I hope to get started with the initial phase this weekend, so please reply in the next few days if you want to be involved.

Dominus tecum

WOW!! All sorts of good information and ideas here! Thanks. I can still see Metamor Keep itself having some sort of Herald after all the keep is actually alive.

If my memory serves me right - the Wildman was a fad that ran thru the nobility a long time ago. It mioht have been added simply because it looked cool!

I need to rethink things a little.
I can see Euper Having a Herald too - All the cities and towns along with all nobility.

I've not really got much more to add but perhaps I can offer some inspiration. From my job at the city archives I have access to a lot ye olde information. While they didn't have any tomes with images of Heraldic shields (only described in writing) they did provide me with a site with more background. They also have a document with the heraldry of loads of city dignitaries dated 1621(I think) at the reception-desk. So I took a few pictures of it.
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x289/LeoMPanther/DB%20Heraldry/dbherald4_zpse6219a48.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x289/LeoMPanther/DB%20Heraldry/dbherald3_zps4253c7d5.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x289/LeoMPanther/DB%20Heraldry/dbherald2_zps32cae9a7.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x289/LeoMPanther/DB%20Heraldry/dbherald1_zpsc27c97f2.jpg
Maybe these will help with ideas.

Otherwise there is this site: http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Heraldry of the world.

And as example I'll use the heraldry of my home city of 's-Hertogenbosch (More or less translatable as "The Duke's forest")
Direct link to the page:http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=%27s_Hertogenbosch

Hertoge3_zps25566d1d.jpg
This is the current heraldry used by the city dated at 25th June 1999
The main part, the tree, is an eloquent symbol of the ducal forest. The tree, accompanied by two smaller ones, has been part of the city seal since 1242. In 1356 the Duchess Johanna van Brabant granted the city the privilege to add the ducal heraldry of Brabant-Limburg(The four lions). The eagle was granted by Emperor Maximillian during his inauguration as Duke of Brabant(as guardian of Charles V). The eagle is the German imperial eagle with the Austrian shield on its chest.

The crown and wildmen have been used since 1670, at which time the heraldry was placed on the new town hall. The crown was one with 3 leaves and 2 pearls. In 1675 the usage of the wildmen, crown and eagle led to a conflict with the (guessing at translation of these titles here) fiscal-advocate and the attorney-general of the council of Brabant. They wanted to see evidence that the city was allowed to use these symbols, and if they couldn't they'd be forced to change the heraldry and seals of the city. The city replied that the shieldbearers, crown and eagle had been granted by the Dukes but offered no evidence to that effect. The municipality did mention that since the abjuration of Spain(1581) several cities had been using these symbols without anyone challenging them. Therefor the city asked that the trial be postponed until everything had been settled.
That the city had been granted permission for the wildmen and the crown through the Dukes is unlikely. Though a wildman was used in the 15th and 16th century on several occasions like printer's marks and festivities. The city itself has used the wildmen since 1670. The crown wasn't used before 1670.

The colours used to be green and black, but were replaced by the ducal colours. Later additions kept their original colours.
After the incorporation into the French empire,(13th January 1813) Bois-le-Duc was permitted to add a vrijkwartier(a figure on the heraldry) for cities of the second class. This vrijkwartier showed a golden N on a blue background. It isn't known if this version was ever used.

The person I spoke to about this told me it is generally unknown why the wildmen are part of the heraldry. I also asked about castles and in practise those used the heraldry of the nobility that owns it or used to own it. It might be changed if the foundation responsible for it chooses too. Though that is most likely only applicable to modern situations.

That's about all I have to offer here, may it be of use.

Also, where is everybody? This was such a lively discussion on the mailing list. I find it hard to believe only the four of us kept interest.

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