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MishaFox 1168651874|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
I've been pondering what to add to this site. I was wondering if I should add all the MK stories here. It would mean a lot of work but it would allow us to add all the latest stories.
Another idea is a Works in Progress page for all those stories you want comments on.
Also I need to figure out graphics and pictures - I HAVE to add all those great maps.
Mystic 1168653086|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Actually transferring stories wouldn't be too bad. I could write a quick program to parse the html pages from the archive and make it a copy paste operation, per story of course. Would take some time, but it wouldn't be an unimaginable hurdle.
MishaFox 1168653933|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
That would be helpful!! Beats having to copy over each story individually. For the latest stories that never made the Archive I have most of those in various WORD document formats and can add them in at any time.
RavenB 1168754021|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Keep in mind that any story posted on the wiki is automatically placed under a Creative Commons license, so only the person who holds the copyright to the story can legally add it here. You can invite people to add their stories, but otherwise we should restrict ourselves to providing links to the archive.
MishaFox 1168755073|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
OH! A very good point. I hadn't realized that. Something we'll need to concider and work on.
MishaFox 1169180412|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
We do need to concider posting stories here. I did get permissions (via emails which I have saved) from many of the older writers that allow me to post the stories on an archive.
I was chatting with Thaeus and he is not going to be able to maintain the old archive. Can someone take over or can we get them posted here?
RavenB 1169181555|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
If we post them here, we'll have to make sure that each and every story has a copyright notice attached to it, making it clear that all rights are reserved by that particular author. This will cancel out the Creative Commons license that applies by default to everything else posted on this site. Individual authors can then release their works into the Creative Commons later if they choose to do so.
MishaFox 1169182970|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Ok. How hard would that be?
At the least we HAVE to put Cope's original story up. He gave me control over that and all of MK.
RavenB 1169186404|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Not hard at all. All you'd need to do is incorporate a text block like this one at the beginning of the story:
Metamor Keep: Rites of Ascendancy is Copyright 1999 by Raven Blackmane. All rights reserved.
This story is posted here by permission of the author. If you would like to post a copy anywhere else, please ask the author for permission first. Thank you.
In the event that Copernicus decides to release the original Metamor Keep story into a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 License, I would have no problem releasing my own stories under the same terms. (In point of fact, we'd probably all be legally required to do so.)
MishaFox 1169188852|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Contacting Cope is not possible. He seems to have dropped offline a few years ago without a trace.
To be on the safe side I'll need to contact all the authors of the MK stories and get their permissions. Thankfully most are still on the TSA list!
MatthiasRat 1169208973|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
We must be careful about posting any stories here at present. This is meant as a Wiki. If we want to make this into a full fledged, archive, that's a completely different undertaking.
Further, we need to sort out the copyright issues as best we can for the future, because, I have a few ideas I'd like to propose we consider in the long term to increase Metamor Keep's visiblity in the furry community. One such idea would be to publish collections of MK stories over which we do have permission.
And when it comes ot Copernicus's original story, who says we cannot rewrite it completely? A new story, but one that introduces the setting just the same?
Virmir 1169229922|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
I'm a web designer experienced in PHP. If you need someone to maintain the old archives while you are busy deciding what to do with the stories, I would be happy to help out.
Furthermore, I have a bit of experience installing web applications such as MediaWiki (the software that Wikipedia uses) and PHPBB (a forum). If the old site has MySQL capabilities, I could install a wiki and forum right on the old site, essentially giving it the same functionality as you have here while eliminating the need to move the stories.
EDIT: Another option would be to simply cross-link the two sites. E.g. The navigation at the top here would include a link to the 'archives'. All the links on the old site are then redirected to appropriate spots in the wiki here. Etc.
Let me know what you think!
MishaFox 1169255833|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
We've come a long way in a short time with this Wiki site and i like how dynamic and fluid it is. All of us have been adding to it and a huge amount of information. I like this new Wiki page!
I'd like to see the storied portion of the old archive maintained and updated with the latest ones for the time being while we figure out what to do permanently.
As to what to do permanently - I'm not sure. Wiki's copyright rules do complicate things.
We could keep the old archive just for the stories and have this Wiki page for everything else like the forum and infromation pages.
What do aal of you think?
MatthiasRat 1169259242|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
I concur with your suggestion Misha. Let's keep the archive up just for the stories (any anything else already there), and make the Wiki for everything else.
