Roscoe

Summary:

...written into a corner? We need a fix.

Roscoe

AmigaDragon 1252726700|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Back in the story "Saturday", it appears after Wicker "Wicked" Potter somehow tricked Roscoe into killing his father, they both left the dungeons. The way I see it, Wicked escaped and Roscoe allowed it and went with him. Later in "Wagging Tongues Will" (part 7), Roscoe is mentioned still as being the head jailer.

Did nobody notice (or question) Henrik's death and Wicker's disappearance? Wasn't Roscoe missed when he left (leaving, why did he apparently return)? If he didn't return, who's the new head jailer?

In case somebody wants to use Roscoe again (or even if not), I think something needs to be cleaned up or explained on these events. Was it just a dream? Was it real and did Roscoe go through his own trial and punishment?

If the end is changed, perhaps a link to the new ending can be added at the insert point, or maybe link to the original instead, while flowing the new in.

Re: Roscoe

MatthiasRat 1252769448|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

This is partly my fault. When Greyflank wanted to write these stories, he came to me to ask permission to do these things to Roscoe (as Phil had left the character in my charge). I said sure, and we mapped out some stuff that would be done to wrap up his various ideas. The character of Wicker would eventually flee to the north, be captured by a patrol, and be given to Baron Calephas who would promptly break him and turn him into his personal toy. Roscoe would be rehabilitated in the end as well.

When Greyflank disappeared, I dropped all of these potential stories because they were too adult for Metamor Keep (and for myself as well). Sadly this also included Roscoe's rehabilitation which in some sense accounts for the change in the way the dungeons seem to be. Roscoe is still there and the head gaoler. Just he's been assigned others to help him and give him some "brightness" This would have been done by Phil who was one of Roscoe's few friends. Unfortunately, all of this has happened off screen as it were.

I hope that helps clear up some of the confusion.

Dominus tecum

Re: Roscoe

Kit Sune 1252793060|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Yes, that does make a lot more sense than the whole chunk of it falling into a plot hole and then out again as a happier place. If we don't declare that particular series non-canon, can we perhaps attach a note at the end of the last one saying essentially what you just said with an apology that it was never finished?

Re: Roscoe

MatthiasRat 1253657235|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Sounds like a good plan to me. That will definitely clear up any confusion.

<EM>Dominus tecum</EM>

Re: Roscoe

Kit Sune 1252744936|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Yes, the original author of that mini-series never actually completed it. The cult in it simply disappears and Roscoe is never mentioned again. I've also noticed that before those stories, the dungeons seemed a dark and dismal place where nightmares lurked and no sane man would wish to stay, not even the jailor himself who was just as nightmarish as the rest of them. After this unfinished tale however, the dungeon just doesn't get mentioned much at all, and when it does it seems to be almost a different dungeon entirely, a much brighter, nicer place. As far as I'm concerned, and the way I've dealt with this, the dark dungeon setting just fell into a plot hole and never escaped. It was never declared non-canon, but it's as if it never existed. So either it happened and there was a warp in time and space (or something) which destroyed Roscoe and the cult (as well as that author's other main characters) and also redecorated the dungeon, or there is another part of the story, unwritten and unmade, which defeats the cult, removes Roscoe from the picture, and makes the dungeon a nicer place. If you look there are a few other places where plotholes like this one suddenly rear out of nowhere to swallow characters and events whole.